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Post by michele cryer on Sept 4, 2004 11:46:16 GMT
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Post by Steve on Sept 4, 2004 13:59:51 GMT
Sorry but couldn't find the article. The links opens a pdf of the whole paper.
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Post by michele cryer on Sept 4, 2004 14:31:08 GMT
Sorry Steve...the article is actually the one on the front page...the headline so to speak...hope it is readable, when zoomed in on..let me know if you still have any problems...
I haven't read the article myself...just one of my 'visitors' suggested that it might be a useful article to post for anyone curious about Respect...Have just checked out the article..much smaller than I thought it would be, and unfortunately doesn't seem quite as 'enlightening' as I was led to believe it would be...sorry for any disappointment!!!
Michele
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Post by Steve on Sept 4, 2004 17:42:53 GMT
Sorry I completely missed it. I thought it would be a long article inside the paper!
You're right it doesn't really say much. What it does say is pretty basic. A lot of people would argue for much the same stuff. The differences would come in how to achieve it and what Respect would sacrifice on the way to gain power. I understand they are having a conference soon to actually try and formulate some polices. Local groups can send delegates but have to pay £20 per delegate!
This is also interesting
“The conference will be administered by a presiding committee appointed by the Executive Council. Speakers will be by slip to the presiding committee.”
Seems they’ve learned about how to control these occasions from the Labour Party!
Also
“Election of Executive Council
The election of the Executive Council will be voting between slates.”
That means that a group of names will be put forward (a slate) and you have to choose between them. Individuals are not put forward and voted on, it’s all or nothing. Another means of central control!
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Post by michele cryer on Sept 4, 2004 18:35:14 GMT
Those are very interesting points that you've highlighted about the conference and voting methods... Thanks  Michele |
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Post by octoberlost on Sept 7, 2004 15:22:27 GMT
And the same paper carries an article on VI Lenin 'Why Revoluionaries Oppose All Oppression' - evidently this excludes oppression by a new 'workers state'  |
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Post by michele cryer on Sept 7, 2004 15:41:45 GMT
Ha ha, well said Octoberlost
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Post by Steve on Sept 8, 2004 14:15:48 GMT
Just thought I'd ask. Do Respect have local meetings in Burnley that are advertised so anyone can go to them? They don't seem to in Preston. It's just something of a mystery to me how Respect is actually organised at a local level.
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Post by michele cryer on Sept 8, 2004 19:31:06 GMT
Steve,
I'm not sure about Burnley, but I have been 'invited' to attend one or two local 'steering committee' meetings in Pendle...(when they assumed I had already joined the party/paid my dues...lol)...and public meetings were discussed/planned for later in the year...
I was a little uncomfortable to see that I was 'invited' to the meeting, and that, by implication we were a sort of 'non elected steering committee', as I thought that local meetings of Respect should include all local members not just a 'self elected steering committee'....hope that makes sense..lol
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Post by Steve on Sept 9, 2004 7:55:43 GMT
Steering committees are much loved by certain groups on the left.  Personally I prefer decisions made in the open by all members. |
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Post by Mitch on Sept 9, 2004 9:03:55 GMT
In Burnley - the Swerps don't publically open out their meetings - they seek to control individuals. If they think they can control you, and you'll stick to the party line - they'll bob you on their mailing list.
Whoops - one slip or challenge to the party line, and hey presto you're off that mailing list. Meeting attendence is strickly controlled - and only identified individuals are notified.
They open out their events to the public - events that they've controlled and planned so that they can run out a format top down - telling you how to think in other words.
This is what I've seen over the past year in Burnley and Pendle. Needless to say during the recent anti-fascist 'coalition' (cough!!, sorry I get this frog in me throat when I mention the Swerps and coalitions in one breath!) myself and thismachinebleeds were fairly quickly kicked off the mailing list. Personally I considered this a compliment and found it rather amusing!!, as well as predictable and certainly not surprising ;D
Memories - blanked by a Trot 'sister' tragically poisoned by a male oriented, elitist and centralist Trot rot party.
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Post by michele cryer on Sept 9, 2004 13:11:08 GMT
I agree with you both Steve and Mitch...see the email sent to Mitch...there does seem to be a rather nasty smell around here these days...
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