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Post by michele cryer on Aug 19, 2004 11:28:39 GMT
I know of at least 2 vegans who use this web forum and would like to invite them to argue the case for becoming vegan as opposed to vegetarian, reprinting any relevant articles...and also to provide us with some examples of interesting vegan recipes...eg. vegan cheese  . Michele |
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Post by octoberlost on Aug 19, 2004 13:59:11 GMT
Ive got to say that really the food I eat is pretty lazy, but that just goes to show those of us in a hurry can still be compassionate and healthy  The main reason behind the birth of veganism was that vegetarians saw limititations to their diet. The two main strands would be environmentalism and cruelty. And since dairy production is part and parcel of the meat industry its still damaging to the environment in the land wastage and does have excessive if not one of the worst outputs in terms of pollution. In terms of cruelty the idea of some bonny milkmaid getting milk from a cow is way off, instead the female cows are intensified like much of the meat industry whereby she is subjected to hormone drugs, artificial insemination, a short restricted and deprived life as nothing more than a milk factory and her offspring is taken from her for veal. Like the vegan literature says, the white is always at the cost of the red stuff. Also health wise dairy is a big NO, since its high fat. Eggs likewise are cruel because your eating the feotus of chickens, and most eggs are still from battery farms, I think. |
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Post by michele cryer on Aug 19, 2004 14:34:47 GMT
Thank you Octoberlost...a very thought provoking post...I agree that it is a deeper issue than it first appears...I had no idea of the way in which lactation was induced in cows until I was 'educated' last night...
I have a friend who is concerned about what would happen to cows if they were no longer bred for meat/dairy products? would they be allowed to become extinct? Of course, I and she is not trying to justify the mistreatment of the cattle with this question, just curious...
Michele
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Post by octoberlost on Aug 20, 2004 12:35:51 GMT
Thats a very complicated question, and the AR movement would have different responses.
But IMO, they would be re-introduced to the wild, but as an immediate point there are animal sanctuaries where withdrawn from farming methods would see a reduction in their number.
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Post by michele cryer on Aug 21, 2004 4:02:52 GMT
Thank you Octoberlost...I think a lot of 'carnivores' use the "but what would happen to the cows/sheep/pigs etc " question as emotional blackmail for us that choose not to eat them, as we are supposed to love animals so much, how can we contemplate possibly being the cause of their extinction by not using them for our consumption any more...lol.
Michele
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