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Milk
Dec 10, 2004 17:02:12 GMT
Post by octoberlost on Dec 10, 2004 17:02:12 GMT
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Milk
Dec 10, 2004 23:16:42 GMT
Post by michele cryer on Dec 10, 2004 23:16:42 GMT
Wow! Octoberlost, that really is an eye-opening article...quite shocking, as you so rightly pointed out...
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Milk
Dec 11, 2004 9:45:29 GMT
Post by Steve on Dec 11, 2004 9:45:29 GMT
No-ones gonna stop me having my brew!
"A sip of milk contains hundreds of different substances, each one having the potential to exert a powerful biological effect when taken independently of the others."
This is true of most substances that people consume.
Anyway it's not as straight forward as Robert Cohen makes out. He seems to operate under a double standard, condemning a substance in milk while praising the same compound when it occurs in soy. Other vegans have attacked him for distorting the truth, dangerous disinformation and questioned his integrity. Could be something with him promoting his own soy-based products? I don't trust research done by an interested party trying to promote their own products. Bloody capitalist!
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Milk
Dec 11, 2004 13:40:50 GMT
Post by michele cryer on Dec 11, 2004 13:40:50 GMT
hehe too right Steve..thanks for providing a more balanced argument!
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Milk
Dec 11, 2004 18:17:25 GMT
Post by Mitch on Dec 11, 2004 18:17:25 GMT
Reckon I might have more luck gettin' rid of me zits by giving up smoking, not to mention avoiding cancer and so forth. By the way, didn't that Dr. Spock want women back in the home looking after the kids - he's come in for a lot of criticism for anti-feminism?! No offence Dr Lost, but I look at the sources when I read an article - they're usually rather revealing. "Spock himself swung back and forth on the pendulum of dissent with each new reprint of his book, trying to counter criticisms of permissiveness, selfish materialism and antifeminism. In response to accusations that he taught a laissez-faire approach to child rearing, he stressed in later editions that children need standards, and that parents, too, have a right to respect. He constantly sought to keep his material updated to be in line with the changing times--one of the reasons for his book's enduring success. Yet for all his compassionate advice to the mothers of the world, Spock mirrored his father's inability to give his own sons the love they needed. Grandson Peter's suicide and Spock's divorce after 48 years of marriage (because of his wife's repeated breakdowns, induced by alcoholism and medication abuse) shattered the image of the ideal family man..........In the final years of his life, Spock was telling his readers to follow his writings and not his example, knowing that as a father he had fallen far short of the ideals his book embraced" www.vision.org/jrnl/0006/bvbspock.html There may well be some issues around what's in milk, but I'll pass on the fatherly protectionist bollocks thank you very much. adieu (ps. look - web forum lets you say bollocks, bollocks bollocks bollocks bollocks bollocks bollocks bollocks bollocks bollocks bollocks bollocks bollocks) Quite shocking
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Milk
Dec 12, 2004 11:01:32 GMT
Post by Steve on Dec 12, 2004 11:01:32 GMT
Yeah I noticed that. You can say bollocks. This is because the web server is in the USA and the Americans don't understand bollocks even they they talk it most of the time. ;D Ever seen the Eddie Izzard video where he's explaining the difference between 'bollocks' meaning rubbish, crap and 'the dog's bollocks' meaning 'the best' to an American audience?
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Milk
Dec 12, 2004 13:11:40 GMT
Post by michele cryer on Dec 12, 2004 13:11:40 GMT
LOL...I love where this conversation is going...teehee!
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Milk
Dec 13, 2004 9:39:07 GMT
Post by Steve on Dec 13, 2004 9:39:07 GMT
Ever heard the classic Mike Harding sketch "A Yank in Burnley"? Very funny. In it he describes a typical whistle stop tour of the UK for American tourists. Part of the tour is to show them how people in Britain lived fifty years ago - that's the Burnley bit.
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Milk
Dec 13, 2004 15:37:19 GMT
Post by michele cryer on Dec 13, 2004 15:37:19 GMT
No, Steve, I haven't heard that gem...any chance of bringing a tape of it to Mitch's place on Wednesday?
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Milk
Dec 13, 2004 16:24:51 GMT
Post by octoberlost on Dec 13, 2004 16:24:51 GMT
No offence Dr Lost, but I look at the sources when I read an article - they're usually rather revealing. I posted it as an observation about milk, and for no other reason. And while Im sure all factory produce is potentially carrying something lethal, I think milk is exceptional by its very nature...
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Milk
Dec 13, 2004 18:14:36 GMT
Post by Mitch on Dec 13, 2004 18:14:36 GMT
Well, yes I appreciate that and I'm currently trying not to choke on soya milk and graduate over from me semi-skimmed when I can hold the soya milk down - titter.
Really Dr Lost, this is rather a lazy answer.
Beam me up Scotty. ;D
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Milk
Dec 14, 2004 14:56:03 GMT
Post by octoberlost on Dec 14, 2004 14:56:03 GMT
soya milk as varying qualities I can assure you..if your having trouble try the expensive ampi-pro or whatever it is, personally I get the co-ops own organic stuff and its fine....
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